tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post114821495076044084..comments2023-08-03T04:54:54.068-04:00Comments on Abacaxi Mamão: Moderately self-righteous rant, Part 2Abacaxi Mamaohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1150411448106312862006-06-15T18:44:00.000-04:002006-06-15T18:44:00.000-04:00P.S. The presence of the scene doesn't keep me out...P.S. The presence of the scene doesn't keep me out of Central Park, but I don't usually hang out at the Great Lawn for more than 20-30 minutes on a given Shabbat, and I often take a nap or walk in Riverside Park instead. I'm also not the world's most social person, so missing out on a few opportunities to socialize is a good thing for me, not a bad thing. :)Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1150411317904871972006-06-15T18:41:00.000-04:002006-06-15T18:41:00.000-04:00You're welcome!I have found very few compelling, n...You're welcome!<BR/><BR/>I have found very few compelling, non-fake people in the traditional Orthodox singles scene on the Upper West Side. Two, to be exact. That's not counting people I knew from before who, for some reason, decided to join the scene. I'm only talking about people that I *only* know from the scene.<BR/><BR/>That might be I don't really hang out in the scene. Most of my local New York friends are Reform, Conservative, or non-denominationally-affiliated Jews who daven at places like Kol Zimrah or Hadar. I have other friends who are Orthodox and daven at Ramath Orah, KOE, or Darkhei Noam. Darkhei Noam is it's own scene, so I don't go there as much as I used to. (I mostly go to KOE, which I really like because it is small, friendly, and mostly quiet during davening. The people who go there are almost universally very nice.)<BR/><BR/>So, no, I don't think I'm missing out on positive socialization opportunities, since I find those elsewhere. For people who don't have a network of diverse friends from high school and college, finding those opportunities elsewhere might be more difficult. If the alternative was staying home, I would probably go to OZ, etc. Fortunately, there are myriad other options.<BR/><BR/>I hear what you're saying about avoiding them making them a bigger deal, but I don't think it does for me. I'm just usually happier going elsewhere.Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1150398785439184002006-06-15T15:13:00.000-04:002006-06-15T15:13:00.000-04:00Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the shout-out...Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the shout-out. I very much agree 100% with everything you said about <I>Not the Godol's comments</I>. And, I think we probably went out with the same 26 year old guy who lives with his mother (kidding)! Regardless of whether I'm meeting the wrong guys, or whether I've had a run of bad luck, I'm in the scene because I have found compelling, non-fake people (i.e., friends) there, and I tolerate the fakeness because it's only a small part of it. I love my shul, my park, etc. I fear that those who don't hang with the scene (i.e., avoid it at all costs), are missing out on positive socialization opportunities, and avoiding things makes them a bigger deal. What do you think?notanewyorkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04922183456966574231noreply@blogger.com