tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post112657705390762119..comments2023-08-03T04:54:54.068-04:00Comments on Abacaxi Mamão: QuotableAbacaxi Mamaohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1126841491146543052005-09-15T23:31:00.000-04:002005-09-15T23:31:00.000-04:00I agree that "the Man" has both positive and negat...I agree that "the Man" has both positive and negative identities, but its positive identity isn't what makes it potentially sexist. What makes it potentially sexist is the use of the word "Man" to describe some attribute of people in general. Like "mankind," who can be described as doing pretty awful thing, but that doesn't make the use of the term any less sexist. (That wasn't a perfect analogy, but maybe it made some sense anyway.) In other words, it's the removal of women from slang and from discussion overall that's sexist, not whether the slang or discussion is positive or negative. If one is prone to getting riled up about these sorts of things. (I am not. There are worse things going on, like women not being hired or promoted equally, being paid less for the same job, being portrayed exclusively as sex objects, etc.)Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1126841458319647662005-09-15T23:30:00.000-04:002005-09-15T23:30:00.000-04:00I agree that "the Man" has both positive and negat...I agree that "the Man" has both positive and negative identities, but its positive identity isn't what makes it potentially sexist. What makes it potentially sexist is the use of the word "Man" to describe some attribute of people in general. Like "mankind," who can be described as doing pretty awful thing, but that doesn't make the use of the term any less sexist. (That wasn't a perfect analogy, but maybe it made some sense anyway.) In other words, it's the removal of women from slang and from discussion overall that's sexist, not whether the slang or discussion is positive or negative. If one is prone to getting riled up about these sorts of things. (I am not. There are worse thing going on, like women not being hired or promoted equally, being paid less for the same job, being portrayed exclusively as sex objects, etc.)Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1126734284404123922005-09-14T17:44:00.000-04:002005-09-14T17:44:00.000-04:00I had a similar incident: Anna, Patrick and I were...I had a similar incident: Anna, Patrick and I were being interviewed, and Patrick said that because we're older, we don't really write songs about "fighting the Man."<BR/><BR/>I replied, "we are the Man"<BR/><BR/>Anna said "and the Woman!"<BR/><BR/>Anna is British, so the idiom "the Man" may not be as internal for her as it is for me, but I thought that was interesting...<BR/><BR/>I think that "the Man" has two identities - one is positive, and conveys success, while the other is negative, and conveys opression.<BR/><BR/>So given that there are both positive and negative meanings, I don't see it as a sexist issue - more of a "the way slang developed" issue. But hey, I could be wrong...Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491386537225283381noreply@blogger.com