tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post115878389025112596..comments2023-08-03T04:54:54.068-04:00Comments on Abacaxi Mamão: Woman heads up Islamic Society of North America and Where are the Jews?Abacaxi Mamaohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1158948575532452922006-09-22T14:09:00.000-04:002006-09-22T14:09:00.000-04:00David, thanks, I fixed the "didn't like it" link. ...David, thanks, I fixed the "didn't like it" link. The blanket accusation of sexism is just that--a blanket accusation. Of course there are exceptions. Kesher Israel is one of them. I hope that there will be more and more of them in the future, so that blanket accusations of sexism are no longer true for the majority of congregations and educational institutions. Note that when women are treated in ways that I regard as "unfair" in Judaism, I don't always think that the intent is to be sexist or to "keep them down" or whatnot. The intent is often honorable, but the effect is sexist.<BR/><BR/>I don't know much about how converts are treated in Judaism, but I'm not surprised that they are also discriminated against.Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1158948281536536152006-09-22T14:04:00.000-04:002006-09-22T14:04:00.000-04:00For anyone who wants to see the sources that JXG m...For anyone who wants to see the sources that JXG mentioned:<BR/><BR/>ה [ד] אין מעמידין מלך מקהל גרים, <BR/>אפילו אחר כמה דורות--עד שתהיה אימו מישראל: שנאמר "לא תוכל לתת עליך איש נוכרי, אשר לא אחיך הוא" (דברים יז,טו). ולא למלכות בלבד, אלא לכל שררות שבישראל--לא שר צבא, ולא שר חמישים או שר עשרה, אפילו ממונה על אמת המים שמחלק ממנה לשדות; אין צריך לומר דיין או נשיא, שלא יהא אלא מישראל: שנאמר "מקרב אחיך, תשים עליך מלך" (שם)--כל משימות שאתה משים עליך, לא יהיו אלא "מקרב אחיך".<BR/><BR/>ו [ה] אין מעמידין אישה במלכות--שנאמר "מלך" (דברים יז,טו), ולא מלכה; וכן כל משימות שבישראל, אין ממנים בהם אלא איש. [ו] ואין מעמידין מלך ולא כוהן גדול--לא גרע, ולא ספר, ולא בלן, ולא בורסי: לא מפני שהן פסולין; אלא הואיל ואומנותן נקלה, העם מזלזלין בהן לעולם. ומשיעשה במלאכה מאלו יום אחד, נפסל.<BR/><BR/>Rav Ben-Tzion Uziel, the former Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel, said about halacha 6, above, in the Rambam: "This halacha is not found in the Talmud, the Mishnah, or the Gemara and since this is not found anywhere else in the poskim (halachic decisors) it is a halacha that one can reject." (Source: <A HREF="http://www.ottmall.com/mj_ht_arch/v7/mj_v7i15.html#CCC" REL="nofollow">Mail.Jewish Mailing list, vol. 7, no. 15</A>.)Abacaxi Mamaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604184268628243496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1158833638200073042006-09-21T06:13:00.000-04:002006-09-21T06:13:00.000-04:00See Rambam (Yad, Shoftim) Mlachim 1:6. Re convert...See Rambam (Yad, Shoftim) Mlachim 1:6. Re converts, 1:5.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11850330.post-1158794004736595292006-09-20T19:13:00.000-04:002006-09-20T19:13:00.000-04:00I've gotta say, I'm tremendously refreshed by the ...I've gotta say, I'm tremendously refreshed by the ISNA: perhaps these are the Muslims I've been waiting for - the ones who can help fight Islamic extremism from an Islamic perspective.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Judaism, I would like to object to the blanket accusation of sexism - <A HREF="http://www.kesher.org" REL="nofollow">Kesher Israel</A> has had multiple female vice presidents, one who is new in the position, and the other who moved away (which explains why she didn't move up). We would consider hiring a female Rabbinic Intern (we haven't had a qualified female candidate from the assorted schools yet).<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I agree that Young Israel is mistaken in that guideline (among many others), but remember, the same voices who argue that a woman can't become a shul president / rabbi say the same thing about a (male) convert too - "sexism" isn't quite the right term to use to describe this...<BR/><BR/>(FYI, your "didn't like it" link is broken)<BR/><BR/>I'll let other movements defend themselves, but there have been studies about relative pay of male and female Conservative Rabbis which showed substantial differences...Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491386537225283381noreply@blogger.com